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Well I don't know much about money (personaly it makes my skin crawl). But rather I don't see the problem with a push rod carburated motor; its a solid motor. It just doesn't make since to put complex breakable parts on an engine that produces such small amounts of power. Like messing with the noble Briggs.

Maybe with the next generation of bikes it could be possible… Chinese 600s :D

As far as a looking into China, as a producing nation, I like to veiw it as Japan a long time ago. Japan had a BAD wrap in the states in the 50s and 60s, but after a while Japan started producing cheap good stuff. Now we accept Jap stuff as quality. China has made a GREAT push in quality in the past 5 years and has almost completly dominatied the scooter market (I mean Yamaha Jog riders use the China equivalent motors for parts now). So I don't think it will be too much longer before larger displacement China bikes are accepted as a natural thing to see on the road.

I dont look at fuel injection as a bad thing, it just has to be reliable and as long as its simple and the sensors hold up well it wouldnt be a problem.
I have ridden the Hyosung 250 fuel injected scooter before and the CF-Moto E-charm and Glory and they soo much better running machines with it. The Hyosung has a strong powerband all the way through and a top speed of around 90mph. And the 150 E-charm and glory are the same way and can probably beat out my 260 scooter up to 50mph no problem not to mention the normal top speed on a 150 is 55-60mph and these will hit 70-75 mph. Granted a modified carburated bike can do the same but out of the box this is impressive.
CF-Moto has a good first step with their fuel injection but from what I understand theirs is adapted from a design provided by ducati. But a similar setup used on the E-Charm 150 scooter would work on 200cc class bikes with some fine tuning and larger throttlebody/injector.
I do feel that the EPA is really putting a choke hold on any new designs from China considering that they use engine designs from the 80's for this long and now all of the sudden most bikes that arent already imported are being stopped and sent back because of stupid rules like I belive a 15 minute time limit to be able to make carburator adjustments and of course cracking down on emissions which they have let slide also considering most china-bikes use baffled/chambered exhaust instead of a catylitic converter which was supposed to be required on everything.