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Travis Oberg and Yoshida Motorsports got us!
February 4, 2010
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As most of our active members know, Stan and I have been working to import the Jinlun JL250P into the country for about a month now.

We had previously posted in other threads that we were looking to bring about 80 bikes in every month and sell them in the China-moto store along with eBay and some in person, face to face.

Well we got taken plain and simple, the reason we are swallowing our pride and posting this story is to protect other consumers and businesses from making the same mistake we did.

Everything below is true and backed up by emails, wire receipts and voice mails. We also have spoken to third parties who know and understand about this person who have backed up our claims, including his own parents.

Our nightmare begins.

Stan called me just before Christmas in 2009 and told me that the guy he had been talking to for about a year who was part of an import group in Kansas City Missouri, named Travis Oberg of Yoshita MotorSports had decided to lower their prices a little more than had been previously discussed so he could move some bikes, in this case the JL250P.

I decided I would not do anything at that time and Stan purchased three bikes via his PayPal account on December 26, 2009 and started awaiting delivery.

Over the next week or so Stan and I would speak often about these bikes, the price was right and I decided to talk to a friend and business partner for financing and go ahead and buy some of these bikes and guarantee the seller, in this case Yoshida Motor Sports, that we would buy 1,000 bikes a year if we could get them at this price.

Stan had been doing some business with this guy previously and he felt good about him so I decided to take a shot and move forward.

So on January the 11th 2010 I wired $8450 and then on January the 14th 2010 I wired another $7800. This was for 25 bikes that were from the year 2009, which we all know there is no mechanical difference between 2009 and 2010 and we could sell the bikes shipped for under $1600 and still make a nice little profit per machine, nothing major but a nice little profit none the less.

This is when the fun really started. Travis Oberg told me that the first 13 bikes had shipped from Roketa (Who is the importer for the JL250P) on January 15th  2010 and that our other 12 bikes shipped on January 18th 2010.

By this time Stan was starting to get worried. He had ordered his bikes on December 26th 2009 and had not seen a single bill of lading or a pro number to track from a reputable trucking company.

When Stan pressed this with Travis Oberg, Travis gave him a pro number for a shipment from a company called mid state trucking (we cannot prove they even exist) and he gave Stan a telephone number which turned out to be a Verizon wireless number. I still don’t think Stan has gotten them on the phone yet.

On January the 21st after over a week of begging Travis Oberg for some tracking information I finally sent him an email basically telling him I thought he did not have our bikes and this was a scam. I knew from past experience that it took about four or five business days for motorcycles to get here in Alabama from California but no matter who I had purchased from in the past the seller had always provided me with a bill of lading and a pro number within 36 to 48 hours even if the shipment would take longer.

He could not provide this information.

After reading the email he freaked, told me Stan and I were crazy and that he would never do business with us again. Uh, Ok. No problem, but where are my bikes I asked?

He told me the shipping company screwed up and sent them to Kansas City where he lives and supposedly had a building that he did business out of.

I told him, ok, this seemed acceptable and to forward our bikes from Kansas City to us in Alabama.

He agreed and we made up. This seemed like a logical thing that could have happened, hell we all know how unorganized Roketa can be so I gave it no thought, but I did ask where were Stan’s bikes that were now just a few days shy of one month since he ordered them on December 26th 2009.

The only excuse he could give to me was that they were on the way and that Stan had ordered between Christmas and New Years and they had a bad snow storm during that time preventing a normal delivery time. He still would not give valid tracking information though or for that matter any proof at all that he ever had them.

So ok, my gut is telling me this is not right but I pass it off to bad timing and move forward. Stan however is not so happy.

During the weekend of January 22nd 2010 Stan and I were on the phone one night talking about this stuff and wondering if we had been conned out of our money when I decided to do a little investigation.

You see, Travis Oberg had faxed me 18 MSO’s from Roketa that had valid VIN numbers on them, across state lines of all things…... So I thought I would run the VIN’s and see what I could find out about the bikes.

One problem arose because I could not run California VIN numbers online. So that was a wash, however I could run a criminal background check on Travis Oberg.

What I saw after running the check made my jaw hit the floor. This guy had close to thirty cases for fraud since 1989 to 2006. I will not get into the details of each case here as that is not what this thread is about, but let’s just say the guy has made a career out of doing some bad things to other people and their money.

So I did some more digging and came up with this website for the DOC in Kansas City Missouri.

https://web.mo.gov/doc/offSearchWeb/searchOffender.do

Type in Travis, Oberg and look at the pretty jail pictures complete with a parole officer’s name and phone number. Interestingly these photos were taken only 1.3 miles from Travis’s supposed office.

So at this point I decided we had been taken and Stan decided to go and file a dispute with Paypal to see if there was any chance in hell of him getting his money back.

Travis Oberg failed to respond to PayPal and in three days PayPal agreed with Stan and gave Stan a credit back on his credit card which was attached to his PayPal account.

So at least Stan got the bulk of his money back which was something good.

So by this time it is January 24th 2010 and I am calling and calling Travis Oberg to try and see if he will just give me my Pro numbers so I can have some peace of mind. So on the 24th I finally get him on the phone that evening and he tells me he will have some tracking information for me the next day.

The morning of January 25th I had two wonderful bill of ladings and two pickup numbers from YRC.com trucking company. I got on the phone and verified that the bikes were to be picked up that day from 12 noon to 5pm @ his address of 4400 Truman Ave. in Kansas City, MO.

So at this point I was feeling really good, I made a call to Stan who brought me back to earth by reminding me that the bikes had not been picked up and anybody can generate a bill of lading with pickup numbers from a computer with a webrowser and internet connectivity.

So I waited, Stan had to be wrong, right? He just had to be…..

Well that afternoon around 5pm I called the trucking company and sure enough a Travis Oberg had called in about 2pm that day and moved the pickup from Monday to Tuesday. I talked to Travis Oberg that night and he told me that the trucking company made a mistake but he did not know I had already caught him in a lie as the trucking company had made sure to ask him his name and had made a note of this when he called in that day.

So the next day the same thing happened again, moved from Tuesday to Wednesday and then the next day Wednesday to Thursday.

Thursday I actually contacted the driver who was to pick these bikes up at around 4:30pm that afternoon. I promptly did a Google lookup on the address, 4400 Truman Ave and found that the business Fat or Phat heads, not sure how they write that out, was located at this address. Travis Oberg had told me that his mother ran a thrift shop in the front of the building so I decided to call this location in hopes of finding Travis since he was not answering his cell phone and I could not leave him a message as his voice mail was filled up by this time, almost daily.

I was calling to let him know the truck was on the way and to be ready for them.

Well I got his mother instead who told me Travis did not have an office there and did not have our bikes there. In fact she told me the only time she saw Travis was on Christmas and his birthday.

She gave me the email address to her husband, a Mr. Forrest Oberg, and asked that I tell my story to him as Travis Oberg had been going around telling everyone that he and his dad were in business together and that his dad owned this company, Yoshita Motor Sports.

I also sent Travis a pretty pointed email telling him I now knew he had lied about almost everything he told me which was filled by a night of hate filled emails back and forth between the two of us.

The next morning Mr. Forrest Oberg called me and I must say I was delighted to talk to him, he is a VERY nice man who I personally believe is a man of his word. I spoke in great detail about Travis and what had taken place and he said he would intervene between Travis Oberg and myself and try and make this deal happen.

Mr. Forrest Oberg told me he did not own the company but rather Travis Oberg did.

Travis told his Father, Mr. Forrest, that he had the bikes in Kansas City and he would get these bikes out but now he wanted me to sign away my rights by signing a “Hold Harmless” agreement before he would ship them.

I refused and told Mr. Forrest Oberg that he had my word that if Travis Oberg sent our bikes he would not have any problems out of me. I just wanted my product which Travis had admitted to his father that he had and that he had our money.

Over this last week Mr. Forrest Oberg had been promised by Travis Oberg that he would send photos to him showing he had the bikes in town.

I explained to Forrest in my last email to him yesterday that I did not think Travis had our bikes nor would he be receiving any photos in my opinion. And to be honest I do not need to see any photos, I just wanted to see a Pro number with the bikes on the truck.

I had given a February 4th 2010 deadline, if to no one else myself that by Friday morning I would be going to my business partner and writing him a check and buying this debt from him and moving on with a criminal case against Travis Oberg and that is what I plan to do.

The money is gone and I will never get it back but if we can stop him I think we will have done the Chinese motorcycle community a great favor. As he is still on parole and has a rich history of defrauding people this should be fairly easy to do.

It turns out Travis has not only done this to me but to many others as well, there is a growing community of people who have been taken advantage of by this man.

I’m not going to define what is about to happen to Travis Oberg on this forum, again, this thread is not about that, it is meant as a warning to anyone out there who thinks they are getting a good deal to not walk, but run away, as they will never receive anything for their money but lies and grief.

The moral of story is stay away from Travis Oberg, Yoshita Motorsports, and a lady named Tammie Bindal  who is his girlfriend I have been told and owns the fax land line that Travis uses to extort money from people.

Everything I have said in this thread is true and can be verified by emails, voice mails, bill of ladings, pickup numbers, law enforcement and wire receipts.

So currently I am out $16250 and I have no bikes. As discussed above I am aware that I will never see this money and I will move forward and allow law enforcement to deal with Travis Oberg.

Hopefully his days of using fraud to make a living are going to be over VERY soon.

Thanks for reading and be careful out there  🙂

February 4, 2010
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That is the whole story from start to finish. I cant add anything other than that is what happened and I state my word and reputation that every word of this is true. There are some bad people out there who will cheat and steal from anyone with they can with no remorse. Travis Oberg belongs in prison, has been in prison and will go back to prison. Hopefully no one will ever have to experience the charms of this worthless thief ever again.

Every import forum I find, be it motorcycles, golf carts, lawn mowers or baby diapers will know that this Travis Oberg/Yoshida Motosports is out to steal and/or destroy everything they have worked for his own personal gain.

February 4, 2010
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AlmonP and Stan,
I am so very sorry to hear of your misfortune. I confess I was half thinking of doing the same thing down here (Chile). To be so basically deceived and dishonestly treated in a first world country almost defies belief, most (naive)  people would not believe it possible in 2010.
I am so,so sorry that your plans have been shattered so.
I hope the rest of the year makes up for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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February 4, 2010
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:'(
More shade on China and the Chinese market.
:'(

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February 4, 2010
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I have taken the liberty of posting your story on another Chinese machinery (Tractors) site, I hope you don't mind but this sort of thing has got to stop !
Brac

February 4, 2010
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Thanks Bracabric,

We do not feel the need to hurt Mr. Oberg's business as long as he is doing the right thing but until he stops taking advantage of other people our experience must be shared with others in order to protect them from being taken advantage of as well.

I am only out $16250, I wonder what some of the others have lost dealing with him?

February 4, 2010
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30080F0605000E610 wrote: :'(
More shade on China and the Chinese market.
:'(

More shade for sure.... It was Stan's and my intention to try and turn things around and provide people with a reputable source for buying motorcycles.

A place where people could get phone, email and online forum support. This idea has been destroyed and Stan and I will be closing the store here on the site by next week sometime.

I know Stan has some plugs, exhausts and other things so you guys might PM him if anyone is interested in his current inventory before it is put on eBay.

The rest of the site will stay open and continue to be a place where China bike owners can receive help with their rides when they have questions.

I will say Stan and I apologize for allowing this man to destroy the hopes by some of having a real place for bikes and support. Hopefully China-moto will be able to have an impact on these deceitful people who are stealing our dreams.

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I live in KCMO and have talked with Travis Oberg in the past about buying bikes, I didnt like his attitude. but being in law enforcement i can go talk to his parol officer if that would help.

February 5, 2010
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3C203A3B273B2038213D2A2C203D2B3C4F0 wrote: I live in KCMO and have talked with Travis Oberg in the past about buying bikes, I didnt like his attitude.  but being in law enforcement i can go talk to his parol officer if that would help.

I'm about to PM you. 🙂

February 5, 2010
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Travis oberg Should really work on his grammer, He is acting very defensive. I am interested to hear how this turns out (how long he goes to jail for). I doubt the fact that he is on parole will help his case ;D what a clown. Im sorry this happened guys.

-Brian

February 5, 2010
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We found out today that another company was scammed out of $21,500.

This guy must be stopped!

February 5, 2010
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In my book this is considerd messin with a fellow biker.

If the law don't get'em lets rally up a possy!

Yes I am 100% serious. Always lookn to use my chains.

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February 5, 2010
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I think it is just terrible that Travis Oberg would attempt to report negatively on Stan's business practices.  If this person would be as diligent with his own business practices as he is with replying to Stan's posts about them he might stand a chance of being okay.

Stan, I hope you don't mind but I had to leave a post there in your defense.  I have done business with you and I can say something he can't.  Our transactions were completed as planned without any problems.  All of us here know that your business practices cannot be questioned but those who read the Alibaba posts may not know who to believe.

This is what I posted:

I have conducted business with Stan Echols and I can say that his business practices reflect a high level of integrity. My purchases from him were always exactly as described and arrived on time. He has always communicated clearly and I can say that doing business with him was always a very comfortable experience. I do not know and have never done business with Travis Oberg but I do know two people who have and they both report negatively. I am also aware that Travis Oberg has a long history of fraud and has spent a considerable amount of time in jail for it. That is a matter of public record, sir.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/649502/BEWARE_Yoshida_Motorsports_Travis_Oberg.htm

February 6, 2010
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Travis Oberg has an accomplice named Tammie Bindel. She is the one that is claimed to be owner of the bank account that Travis Oberg is using to defraud people.

This is not yet 100% clear as to her total involvement but she is now being looked at also.

The facts:

1: Travis has no business address, only a land fax line that belongs to Tammie Bindel. (I will not list her address here in this forum but I do have it as do the authorities.)

2: Travis Oberg uses a cell phone to do business which is with At&t instead of a land line.

3: Travis Oberg has been involved in fraud since 1989 through today. This covers many types of fraud including check kiting, passing bad checks, fraud by deceit among many others.

This can be verified by looking his Department of Corrections page or doing a simple criminal background check on the name "Travis Oberg" where you will find almost thirty cases against him since 1989.

https://web.mo.gov/doc/offSearchWeb/searchOffender.do

He is still on parole from his last series of convictions in 2006.

4: Travis Oberg asked for and defrauded us out of $16250 for 25 Roketa MC-113 motorcycles, commonly known as Jinlun JL250P motorcycles.

5: There are now three people who have come forward to tell their stories. The list is growing every day. These people are being directed to the authorities in Kansas City MO.

We don't know how deep this will go. We do know that his father, Forrest Oberg, does have some type of business relationship with Travis which he admitted to me over the phone.

This was at first denied. I think that his dad is a nice guy and he seems honest but he continues to protect Travis and this puts a big question mark by his name now.

Based on the BBB report, Forrest Oberg, is the principal in the company,

Business Contact and Profile
Name: Phatheads, LLC (Yoshida Motor Sports of America)
Phone: (816) 813-2699
Address: 4400 Truman Rd.
Kansas City, MO 64127
Original Business Start Date: October 2005
Principal: Forrest D. Oberg
Customer Contact: Forrest D. Oberg - (816) 813-2699
Entity: Limited Liability Corporation
Incorporated: October 2005, MO
Employees: 8
Type of Business: Recreational Vehicles-Dealers
BBB Accreditation: This company is not a BBB Accredited business.
Additional DBA Names: Fatboyz LLC

This may mean that he started the company and turned things over to Travis but he does seem to have some connections to the business still today and his name my be on the articles of the corporation.

It is unclear if he is part of the fraud going on over there or if he has no idea. This is being investigated as well.

We will continue to keep this information updated as we learn more.

February 8, 2010
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656E7C63656D6B677263060 wrote:

I think it is just terrible that Travis Oberg would attempt to report negatively on Stan's business practices.  If this person would be as diligent with his own business practices as he is with replying to Stan's posts about them he might stand a chance of being okay.

Stan, I hope you don't mind but I had to leave a post there in your defense.  I have done business with you and I can say something he can't.  Our transactions were completed as planned without any problems.  All of us here know that your business practices cannot be questioned but those who read the Alibaba posts may not know who to believe.

This is what I posted:

I have conducted business with Stan Echols and I can say that his business practices reflect a high level of integrity. My purchases from him were always exactly as described and arrived on time. He has always communicated clearly and I can say that doing business with him was always a very comfortable experience. I do not know and have never done business with Travis Oberg but I do know two people who have and they both report negatively. I am also aware that Travis Oberg has a long history of fraud and has spent a considerable amount of time in jail for it. That is a matter of public record, sir.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/649502/BEWARE_Yoshida_Motorsports_Travis_Oberg.htm

What is really bad is that he took us for $16250. He got away with it short term, but his day is coming very, very, soon.

That is some real money and the authorities in his town are not letting this sit still.....

Payback is hell.

Looks like we might be doing some good though, over 6,000 reads on this thread alone is the last few days.

Hopefully the word is out on him and he will not be able to take advantage of anyone else.

February 10, 2010
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I hope you get your money back and things go in your favor. Anyway I just started selling jerseys on eBay about 2 months ago, Travis had contacted me and informed me that he got my number from alibaba and wanted to no if i was interested in bulk purchases at whole sale price. I told him i would be in the near future but just starting i only do about 15 Jerseys  at a time. Then I asked him about a website and he directed me to phat heads .com. I went to the site and it was a parked domain that was for sale. I didn't think much of it cuz I was stocked at the time so i just kinda shrugged it off. Well he contacted me again about a month ago. I thought i would give him a try. Now like i said I'm just starting and have no capital, I have  family of four and have been unemployed working on self employment. So 200.00$ to me is like 21,000 to you, or maybe not but you see my point. Any way i made a 200.00 order. I asked about a website this time he said that they were working on it and it was under construction. At this point i hadn't put the contradicting website answer together  yet. After about a week and nothing arrived i got suspicious but kind of brushed it off for a few because Travis always returned my calls and even initiated some of the calls and  emails. He informed me that they've been in business in business for about 10 years and supplied stuff to Kroger and Kingsupers. When I looked up the licence it was less then a year old and it was under some chicks name. My tracking number was bogus and he said the shipping company got the wrong address and he corrected it.The shipping company he said he used was mid state. Mid state closed down about 6 months ago. You call the number and its a female  voice message saying they are away from there desk to leave a message. Nobody calls back and you never talk to anybody. The # is a cell phone That belongs to a guy named a aa crap i cant find the report rite now. Any way i could swear that it was the number Travis contacted me with the very first time i ever talked to him. I did find another company with the name Mid State, they said they don't show recordeof my tracking number.  20 days later on jan30 2010 i contacted pay pal filed a dispute and they are   reviewing the case now. I know my measly 200.00 doesn't begin to compare to Stans loss or the other thousands that have been swindled out of hard working businesses by this guy. After findin your story it makes me wonder why he would even mess with me and my measly 200.00 My heart goes out to all those that this jackass scam F----  has taken for thousands and will be more than happy to help any body out as far as witnesses or anything that mite be helpfull through my experience with this piece of garbage. My email is [email]milehisport@gmail.com[/email] O ya and he is now posted on another trade site called Tower Trade. Thanks for listening. any thing i can do to help please don't hesitate to contact me

February 10, 2010
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Yet another person who has been taken. I'm sorry he got you as well.

From what I understand Tammie Bindel is the woman you are talking about. Travis thinks this makes him safe because he has nothing in his name, if that is even the truth (this is being investigated), but he is an agent of this business perpetrating wire fraud over state lines for big money which is a VERY serious thing to do especially with his history of defrauding people.

We have emails from him, voice mails from him, bill of ladings from him using his personal shipping account and wire receipts among other evidence.

What is funny is that he has totally exposed his girlfriend, Tammie Bindel, to the same charges. I guess that is the gift that keeps on giving, "Sorry babe, but for Valentines day I got you 10 years in prison." I bet that beats the hell out of a card and flowers......

Travis contacted a local attorney in Alabama and is saying he wants to make payment of this $16250 back to me.

Of course we see this for what it is, another stall tactic. But he now has implicated an attorney who will also be able to be subpoenaed and asked to give testimony about Travis Oberg admitting to taking this money, if of course he does not follow through, which he will not.

This is where we are.

I have been asked to hop in a car next week and drive to Kansas City, MO to give evidence against Travis Oberg and Tammie Bindel. Interstate Wire Fraud for this amount of money carries a very stiff penalty and it is our goal to have Travis and this Tammie woman off the street by the end of next week.

Of course, if he comes through with the money in the next couple of days before this week is out I will let it drop and I will not have to go up there, otherwise I will be going ahead and having this man locked up and I'll have to get my satisfaction from this scam that way.

Also, I think it was Forrest Oberg who has been in business for ten years???? Forrest started Yoshita Motor Sports and Travis Oberg/Tammie Bindel started Yoshita wholesale.  This is what I think happened, then he uses his fathers name to take advantage of people, this to, is currently being investigated.

It is still being investigated whether or not Forrest Oberg has something to do legally with Travis Oberg and Tammie Bindel.

He told me at first he has nothing to do with them and then he told me he helps Travis on a daily basis so I am not sure what to believe about him.

I'm also not 100% sure I was talking to Forrest all the time. We did catch Travis posing as his father on the phone one day, so it could be that Travis is impersonating his father some of the time as well.

Again, Forrest seemed like a nice person but he is really helping Travis try and stall this thing out.

All I know is it will be 100% over next week. He will pay the money back or he will be in jail, either way is fine by me at this point just as long as this is over soon.

February 10, 2010
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I also found this page on the web. Forrest Oberg told me he was a pastor.

http://peacetabernacle.info/about.html

What is odd is if you hit the paypal donate button on the bottom of the page it reads that they are unable to take money at this time via paypal.

This is a universal paypal message when an account has been suspended for suspicious activity. Of course it can also mean other things but with his closeness to the Travis Oberg wire fraud situation it may not be innocent.

Hopefully Travis will pay up and we can all go on our separate ways, but I think I know by now there is no money and this guy got me.

I'll keep everyone updated as new information comes in, especially if I go to his city next week.

February 13, 2010
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On Monday it will be five weeks since we were taken for$16250. No bikes and no money.

All tracking numbers he sent us were fake.

Still planning on going to Kansas City next week to meet with the authorities about this guy, Travis Oberg.

After that, I'll be going to his house and looking this thug in the eyes and asking for my money.

Wonder what excuse he will give me face to face?

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